We now quote from the December 17, 2004 exchange between O’Reilly and Mr. Brook.

O’Reilly: Joining us now from Irvine California is Doctor Yaron Brook, the president of the Ayn Rand Institute. Now your Institute is calling for harsher military measures in Iraq, is that what you want to see?

Yaron Brook: Oh absolutely. We want to see the rules of engagement in Iraq changed completely. We want to see the military place the lives of our soldiers as a higher value than the lives of Iraqi civilians. The only way to win [against] this insurgency is for the military to be a lot more brutal in fighting the insurgents than it is today.

O’R: All right, but if you do that, if you throw out the Geneva convention and throw out a lot of these rules of engagement that we have … then you alienate the whole world, you create more enemies, because Al-Jazeera and these people, they’re running wild now; they’d ramp it up tenfold, so, you have to consider the cause and effect do you not?

YB: It’s the opposite, Bill. The weaker we are, the weaker we are portrayed, the more we prosecute soldiers for killing injured insurgents, the stronger the enemy becomes, the more confident they are, the more emboldened they are that they can actually defeat us—

O’R: That might be the micro-view there … but you’re not suggesting, Doctor, that U.S. soldiers execute captured Iraqis are you?

YB: I’m suggesting that we start bringing this war to the civilians, the consequences of this war, to the civilians who are harboring and helping and supporting the insurgents in Fellujah and other places.

O’R: By doing what?

YB: I would like to see the United States turn Fallujah into dust, and tell the Iraqis: If you’re going to continue to support the insurgents you will not have homes, you will not have schools, you will not have mosques—

O’R: But then we’d be Nazis. You know that’s what the Nazis d—

YB: No we wouldn’t be Nazis—

O’R: Well yes we would, let me ask you thi—

YB: We’re the good guys, Bill, here. There’s an enormous difference, we are fighting—

O’R: The Nazis thought they were good guys too. All right, but look, that’s what the Nazis did—

YB: It’s irrelevant what you think you are, the question is what you truly are.

COMMENTS: this shows the difference between a philosophy of equivocation in the mind of O’Reilly who knows America is good but that civilian’s are not proper targets in a war. Yaron Brook OTOH knows civilians are necessary to support their military. All of the work civilians do goes to support the military because even a person who sweeps the floors is part of the large group of people need to support the culture which is what supports the military. Everyone in a culture goes to war either in the direct service of the military or in a backup capacity meaning doing work that supports the culture, the economy had therefore the military.

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